IEEE Standards Coordinating Committee 21 (SCC21)

Meeting Minutes

IEEE SCC21 Meeting Minutes – 24 July 2020

Agenda

Topic Lead Approval Item? Time (EDT)
1.      Introduction and IEEE policy matters

1.1.    Call to Order – Chair

1.2.    IEEE Patent Policy

1.3.    Determine if Quorum met? – Chair

1.4.    Introduction of new members and Guests

Chair

 

 

 

 

2:00

 

 

 

 

2.      Agenda and previous meeting minutes

2.1.    Approval of Agenda – All

2.2.    Approve previous meeting minutes – All

2.2.1. Minutes of June 24, 2020  https://ieee-sa.imeetcentral.com/p/aQAAAAAEQLjY

Chair

 

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

 

2:10

 

 

 

 

3.      Technical discussion

3.1.    Rolling Presentation

·                NREL IEEE 1547-2018 Resources

 

Michael Ingram

 

 

 

No

 

 

 

 

2:15

 

 

3.2.    Project Review

3.2.1. Update on IEEE 1547.x Standards

·                Update on P1547.2

·                Update on P1547.3

·                Update on P1547.9

3.2.2. Update on SCC21 Energy Storage Standards

·                IEEE P1562

·                IEEE 1526

3.2.3. Update on SCC21 Smart Grid Interoperability

·                P2030 Update

·                P2030.4 Update

·                2030.10.1 Update

 

 

Stec

Sandberg

Ropp

 

Siira
Ashton,

 

 

Siira

Siira/Joos

Siira

 

 

 

No

No

No

 

No

No

 

 

No

No

No

 

 

 

2:30

 

 

 

2:35

 

 

2:40

 

 

 

 

3.3.    Unfinished Business

3.3.1. Stand-Alone Systems and Grid Forming Inverters

3.3.2. Overview of IEEE SCC21 Solar PV Standards to be transferred to IEEE PES ESSB

Siira

Ashton

 

No

No

 

2:55

 

 

 

3.4.    New Items

3.4.1. PAR for Electric transportation fast charging station management system functional specification

3.4.2. PAR for Field Calibration System for Current Carrying Capacity of Overhead Transmission Lines

3.4.3. Online Meeting Guidelines from IEEE SA

3.4.4. PAR proposal “Guide for Electrochemical Energy Storage System Participating Frequency Control of Power Grid

Joos

 

Siira

 

Siira

 

 

Yes

 

Yes

 

No

 

 

3:05

 

 

 

 

 

 

4.      Action items and next meeting(s)

4.1.    Action items

4.2.    Next meeting(s) August  28, 2020

 

All

 

 

3:20

 

 

5.      AOB All
6.      Adjourn 3:30

 

Minutes

Topic
1.       Introduction and IEEE policy matters

Meeting commenced at 2:00 PM EDT. Quorum was met at 2:02 PM EDT.

SCC21 Roster and Participation for July 24, 2020                                                                                        

Total members & guests               63

Members & Guests present         22

Eligible voting members               22

Voting members present              17

Mark Siira opened the meeting, and reviewed latest updated agenda, sent prior to meeting. Added that additional ESB PAR will be presented during Curtis Ashton’s presentation in 3.2.2 Update on SCC 21 Energy Storage Standards.

The Chair identified that no patent related discussion will take place.

2.       Agenda and previous meeting minutes

2.1.   Approval of Agenda – Approved.  Curtis Ashton motioned. Seconded by Robby Simpson.

2.2.    Approve previous meeting minutes – All – Minutes of April 24, 2020 meeting approved.  Andy Hoke motioned. Seconded by Leo Casey.

3.       Technical discussion

3.1.   Rolling Presentation

3.1.1. NREL IEEE 1547-2018 Resources – Michael Ingram

Presented information on and reviewed the NREL IEEE 1547-2018 Resources Website – https://www.nrel.gov/grid/ieee-standard-1547/ . The website provides educational materials, knowledge gaps analysis, and clause-by-clause summary of the standard.

Looking for publicly sourced information and looking for a list of educational resources.

It was suggested to summarize on biggest gaps to date. Priorities have been identified but filling the gaps is difficult since their isn’t much public information. Priorities include: voltage regulation, ride-through, power quality, protection,  and anti-islanding.  A whitepaper is forthcoming on voltage regulation. Modules are being developed to address other priorities.

It was also suggested that DER Developers may be a blind spot, especially regarding “Clause 11 – Evaluation and Verification.”  There is no publicly available documentation from developers.  Dave indicated that developers will follow what needs to get done.   NREL focused on stakeholders that are in the process of deciding how to implement 1547.

Mark Siira asked the members to think about this information and get back with things we can do.  SCC 21 website will be cross-linked with the NREL website.

3.2.   Project Review

3.2.1. Update on UL 1741 SB and timeline for rollout of IEEE Std 1547™-2018 Compliant DER (see also https://site.ieee.org/sagroups-scc21/standards/1547rev/. There will be a word update forthcoming.

3.2.2.Update on IEEE 1547.x Standards

The next meetings will be virtual due to restricted travel.  Meetings are tentatively planned for the week of October 5th.

·                Update on P1547.2 – Work continues by subgroups in developing draft material. Progress has been good.

·                Update on P1547.3 – Developing content will continue before upcoming meeting.

·                Update on P1547.9 –  No update provided

·                Other discussion – Jens Boemer reminded all chairs to stay within the scope of PARS.  Guidance should identify what is within the scope of 1547 and what is outside the scope.

3.2.3.Update on SCC21 Energy Storage Standards

·                IEEE P1562- Is being reballoted as a Recommended Practice.

·                IEEE 1526 – No update provided.

3.2.4.Update on SCC21 Smart Grid Interoperability

·                P2030 Update – Will be looking for leadership.

·                P2030.4 Update – Has monthly meetings. Some of the content may be provided to P2030.

·                P2030.10.1 – No update.

·                2030.11 –  Jens provided that 2030.11 standard is a DERMS guide.  Transmission and distribution use a much broader definition of DER than we use in SCC 21.  Their definition includes dispersed generation to transmission and subtransmission.

Bob identified that sub-aggregators are going after smaller on transmission and subtransmission. Not relevant for DERMS on large plants.

3.3.   Unfinished Business

3.3.1. Stand-Alone Systems and Grid Forming Inverters

Minutes from last meeting describe what is needed.

3.3.2. Overview of IEEE SCC21 Solar PV Standards to be transferred to IEEE PES ESSB

It was confirmed by Curtis that none of the standards pertain to grid integration.

Motion to transfer IEEE Standards 1144, 1145, 1361 and 1526 to ESSB was motioned by Curtis Ashton. Jens Boemer seconded the motion.  Motion was approved with none opposed and no abstentions at 2:51 PM EDT.

3.4.   New Items

3.4.1. PAR for Electric transportation fast charging station management system functional specification

Geza, the author of the PAR was not present and the material was reviewed by Mark Siira.  This PAR needs to be evaluated with utility participation. There are a lot of unknowns. The committee is not comfortable rushing into this.   Are there any SAE standards?  Recommend IEEE ITS (intelligent transportation) as co-sponsor.   Additionally IEEE PELS and PES ESSB should be involved in an advisory Role.   Mark will schedule a coordination Call.

3.4.2. PAR for Field Calibration System for Current Carrying Capacity of Overhead Transmission Lines

T&D turned it down. They felt it was grid related.  It is outside the scope of IEEE SCC21.  Insulated conductors committee of PES may know who would be a better sponsor.

Jens motioned to reject because it is outside SCC21 scope. Curtis seconded. Motioned to reject passed at 3:13 PM EDT with no objections nor abstentions.

3.4.3.Online Meeting Guidelines from IEEE SA

Mark Siira identified that these are new guidelines for conducting online meetings.

3.4.4. PAR for P2688 – Energy Storage Management System (ESMS) draft standard. This standard is proposed for ESSB sponsorship with suggestion that SCC21 be brought on as secondary sponsor.

Curtis motioned to put SCC21 as co-sponsor.  Jens seconded.  Motion approved at 2:57 PM EDT with no objections nor abstentions. (See attached

3.4.5. PAR proposal “Guide for Electrochemical Energy Storage System Participating Frequency Control of Power Grid.” – We reviewed this last year. This was brought up by Mike Kipness and will be put on the agenda for the August 28th meeting. PAR and Power Power Point slides entitled “Guide for Electrochemical Energy Storage System Participating Frequency Control of Power Grid” can be found in IMeetCentral (Members only)

4.       Action items and next meeting(s)

4.1.    Action items:

·        Link to NREL website from SCC21 website – Wayne

·        Proposal for ES entity standard – Mark

·        Request guideline from SGCC that is referenced – Mark

4.2.    Next meeting(s) – August 28, 2020

–          Next meeting technical presentation by Ryan Quint – FFR (Fast Frequency Response) presentation based on NERC Report.

–          Report out on terminology discussion initiated by Jens and Geza .

5.       AOB – None
6.       Adjourn – Adjourned at 3:30 PM EDT  – Leo Casey motioned, Chase Sun seconded.

IEEE SCC21 Meeting Minutes – June 26, 2020

Agenda

Topic Lead Approval Item? Time (EDT)
1.      Introduction and IEEE policy matters

1.1.    Call to Order – Chair

1.2.    IEEE Patent Policy

1.3.    Determine if Quorum met? – Chair

1.4.    Introduction of new members and Guests

Chair

 

 

 

 

2:00

 

 

 

 

2.      Agenda and previous meeting minutes

2.1.    Approval of Agenda – All

2.2.    Approve previous meeting minutes – All

2.2.1. Minutes of May 22, 2020

Chair

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

2:10

 

 

 

3.      Technical discussion

3.1.    Rolling Presentation

·   NERC FFR Report,  https://www.nerc.com/comm/PC/InverterBased%20Resource%20Performance%20Task%20Force%20IRPT/Fast_Frequency_Response_Concepts_and_BPS_Reliability_Needs_White_Paper.pdf

 

Ryan Quint

 

 

No

 

 

 

2:15

 

3.2.    Project Review

3.2.1. Update on IEEE 1547.x Standards

·                Update on P1547.2

·                Update on P1547.3

·                Update on P1547.9

 

3.2.2. Update on SCC21 Energy Storage Standards

·                IEEE P1562

·                IEEE 1526

 

3.2.3. Update on SCC21 Smart Grid Interoperability

·                P2030 Update

·                P2030.4 Update

·                2030.10.1 Update

 

 

Zgonena

Stec

Sandberg

Ropp

 

 

Siira
Ashton,

 

 

Siira

Siira/Joos

Siira

 

 

No

No

No

No

 

 

No
No

 

 

No

No

No

 

 

2:30

 

 

 

 

 

2:35

 

 

 

2:40

 

 

 

3.3.    Unfinished Business

3.3.1. Harmonization of terminology – Updates on NERC SPIDER terms related to DER

 

Boemer

 

 

 

No

 

 

 

2:55

 

 

3.4.    New Items

3.4.1. Approve SCC21 Policies and Procedures as amended by IEEE AudCom

3.4.2. Discuss potential PAR for Stand-Alone Systems and Grid Forming Inverters

 

Siira

 

Siira, Sun

 

Yes

 

No

 

3:05

 

 

4.      Action items and next meeting(s)

4.1.    Action items

4.2.    Next meeting(s) July 24, 2020

All

 

3:20

 

5.      AOB

 

All

 

6.      Adjourn 3:30

Minutes

Topic
1.       Introduction and IEEE policy matters

Meeting commenced at 2:00 PM EDT. Quorum was met at 2:02 PM.

SCC21 Roster and Participation for June 26, 2020                                                                                      

Total members & guests               63

Members & Guests present         22

Eligible voting members               22

Voting members present              16

Mark Siira opened the meeting, and reviewed the agenda. Tom Basso motioned to approve. No objections.

The Chair identified that no patent related discussion will take place.

2.       Agenda and previous meeting minutes

2.1.   Approval of Agenda – Approved by all. Motioned for approval by Tom Basso.

2.2.    Approve previous meeting minutes – All – Minutes of May 22, 2020 meeting approved by all. Sean Carr motioned. Seconded by Curtis Ashton.

3.       Technical discussion

3.1.   Rolling Presentation

·        NERC FFR Report by Ryan Quint, Senior Manager, BPS Security and Grid Transformation, North American Electric Reliability Corporation (New Role on Grid Transformation LEAD at NERC)

Fast Frequency Response issue is dependent on :

·        Contingency defined for each system

·        Performance Time

·        Size and scale of system

Frequency is a Reliability Indicator

In Texas critical inertia can be decreased if inverter effort overcome synchronous inertia.  ERCOT is pushing to use FFR to overcome lower MW of synchronous generators in the region as compared to other regions. FFR is not needed in the east because of the large number of synchronous generators.

3.2.   Project Review

3.2.1. Update on IEEE 1547.x Standards

·                Update on UL1741 SB for IEEE Std 1547™-2018 and 1547.1-2020.  Ballot for UL1741 SB closes on July 5th.

·                Update on P1547.2 –Had working group meeting July 10th – 12th. Document is proceeding nicely with some great input.

·                Update on P1547.3 – Working group moving along. Will start forming more subgroups at fall meeting.

·                Update on P1547.9 –  Is expected to be balloted next year.

3.2.2.Update on SCC21 Energy Storage Standards

·                IEEE P1562 – Will be released for ballot in second week of July.

·                IEEE 1526 – Comment resolution meeting in July. Will terminate ballot and resubmit PAR. There are 400+ comments. Only 20-30 need conversations. High approval percentage.

·                Curtis Ashton also identified that in July ESSB will review transfer of approved standards to ESSB. This will be in addition to those approved in July 2019.

·                Curtis Ashton also identified that ESSB working on a PAR for Energy Storage Management Systems.

 

3.2.3.Update on SCC21 Smart Grid Interoperability

·                P2030 Update – Have approval for 2030 revision to 2030-2011. At next meeting will review approach including a focused outline.

·                P2030.4 Update – Monthly meetings being held. Will have material that feeds into the 2030 project.

·                P2030.10.1 – Standard being reviewed for ballot for T&D  Mike Kipness clarified that P2030.10 is under T&D – Will go to ballot and is being reviewed by T&D. SCC21 is not a sponsor.  “Standard for power distribution within a facility – DC Microgrid for rural and remote electric.”

·                P2030.11 – Includes many definitions. Consensus was to minimize number of definitions. Includes transmission and distribution.

§

3.3.   Unfinished Business

3.3.1. Harmonization of terminology – Working Definitions from NERC   Wait for cleaned up version.  Ryan Quint will send to Wayne Stec for distribution to SCC21. The document is still being reviewed.

3.4.   New Items

3.4.1. Approve SCC21 Policies and Procedures as amended by IEEE AudCom – Motioned to approve by Andy Hoke. Seconded by Leo Casey. No objections. No abstentions. Approved at 3:03 PM.

Also discussed that the baseline procedures are used for all working groups. Will be discussed at next meeting.

3.4.2. Discuss potential PAR for :Stand Alone Systems and Grid Forming Inverters:

·        Mark Siira to hold two meetings to discuss before next SCC 21 meeting.

·        Andy asked is this strictly grid forming inverters connected to the system or stand-alone? Leo mentioned that it might be both. Its more of the transition between the two.  Mark clarified that the group wil determine scope.  Andy asked to be included in the meetings.

4.       Action items and next meeting(s)

4.1.    Action items:

4.2.    Next meeting(s) – July 24, 2020.

5.       AOB – None
6.       Adjourn – Adjourned at 3:10 PM EDT  –Andy Hoke motioned, Leo Casey seconded.

IEEE SCC21 Meeting Minutes – May 22, 2020

Agenda

Topic Lead Approval Item? Time (EDT)
1.      Introduction and IEEE policy matters

1.1.    Call to Order – Chair

1.2.    IEEE Patent Policy

1.3.    Determine if Quorum met? – Chair

1.4.    Introduction of new members and Guests

Chair

 

 

 

 

2:00

 

 

 

 

2.      Agenda and previous meeting minutes

2.1.    Approval of Agenda – All

2.2.    Approve previous meeting minutes – All

2.2.1. Minutes of April 24, 2020

Chair

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

2:10

 

 

 

3.      Technical discussion

3.1.    Rolling Presentation

·                IEEE Power Electronics Society (PELS)  Standard Development Activity

 

Johan Enslin

 

 

No

 

 

 

2:15

 

3.2.    Project Review

3.2.1. Update on UL 1741 SB and Timeline for Rollout of IEEE Std 1547™-2018 Compliant DER (see also https://site.ieee.org/sagroups-scc21/standards/1547rev/

3.2.2. Update on IEEE 1547.x Standards

·                Update on P1547.2

·                Update on P1547.3

·                Update on P1547.9

 

3.2.3. Update on SCC21 Energy Storage Standards

·                IEEE P1562 Revised PAR to change to Recommended practice and Reset the Ballot Process

·                IEEE 1526

 

3.2.4. Update on SCC21 Smart Grid Interoperability

·                P2030 Update – Approval by IEEE-SA NESCOM 4/29

·                P2030.4 Update

·                2030.10.1 Draft Review

 

Zgonena

 

 

 

Stec

Sandberg

Ropp

 

 

Siira

Ashton,

 

 

 

Siira

Siira/Joos

Siira

 

 

No

 

 

 

No

No

No

 

 

No

No

 

 

No

 

No

No

 

 

 

2:30

 

 

 

2:35

 

 

 

2:40

 

 

3.3.    Unfinished Business

3.3.1. SCC21 Standard Development Roadmap

·                Implications of HECO/IREC harmonization of HI Rule 14H with 1547-2018 for future 1547 revision

3.3.2. Update on conversation with PELS

 

Boemer

 

 

Siira/Boemer

 

No

 

 

No

2:55

 

 

 

3.4.    New Items

3.4.1. Approve PAR for P1562 revision jointly sponsored with ESSB

3.4.2. Harmonization of terminology – Updates on NERC SPIDER terms related to DER

 

Siira

 

Boemer

 

Yes

 

No

3:05

 

4.      Action items and next meeting(s)

4.1.    Action items

4.2.    Next meeting(s) June 26, 2020

All

 

 

3:20

 

 

5.      AOB All
6.      Adjourn 3:30

 

Minutes

Topic
1.       Introduction and IEEE policy matters

Meeting commenced at 2:00 PM EDT. Quorum was met at 2:02 PM.

SCC21 Roster and Participation for May 22, 2020                                                                                       

Total members & guests               63

Members & Guests present         22

Eligible voting members               22

Voting members present              16

Mark Siira opened the meeting, and reviewed latest updated agenda, sent prior to meeting.

The Chair identified that no patent related discussion will take place.

2.       Agenda and previous meeting minutes

2.1.   Approval of Agenda – Approved by all. Hawk Asgeirsson motioned. Seconded by David Narang.

2.2.    Approve previous meeting minutes – All – Minutes of April 24, 2020 meeting approved by all.  Wayne to send out instructions on how to vote on unapproved minutes from IMeetCentral.

3.       Technical discussion

3.1.   Rolling Presentation

3.1.1. IEEE Power Electronics Society (PELS) Standard Development Activity –   Johan Enslin presented an overview of PELS program.

PELS Standards

·        Wide Bandgap PE Roadmap

·        Power Hardware in the Loop

·        Smart Grid

·        Task Force on Fault Current Limiting

IEEE  Cyber Physical Security – Common Definition ( of what’s inside the converter).  Anthony Johnson will introduce to PSCCC

·        Link to PELS Roadmap https://resourcecenter.ieee-pels.org/roadmap/PELSPRO0020.html

eGrid may be good conference to participate

Question on switching frequency.  Johan said currently migrating into megahertz range – biggest issue is EMI.

3.2.   Project Review

3.2.1. Update on UL 1741 SB and timeline for rollout of IEEE Std 1547™-2018 Compliant DER (see also https://site.ieee.org/sagroups-scc21/standards/1547rev/. There will be a word update forthcoming.

3.2.2.Update on IEEE 1547.x Standards

·                Update on P1547.2 –Next Working group meeting June 10th to 12th.

·                Update on P1547.3 – Good activity in the working group. Upcoming meeting June 9th & 10th

·                Update on P1547.9 –

·                Other discussion – After the June 1547.x meetings, the next 1547.x meetings are scheduled for ComEd the week of September 28th. It is uncertain whether this meeting will take place at ComEd due to concerns over Covid 19 quarantine. Reservations are still in place.  SCC21 to make a call to have remote or in person meeting at July SCC21 meeting.

3.2.3.Update on SCC21 Energy Storage Standards

·                IEEE P1562- Revised PAR to change to Recommended practice and Reset the Ballot Process – It is moving forward and expected to be approved.

·                IEEE 1526 – Out for ballot with 57% response rate. Open again until May 27th.

3.2.4.Update on SCC21 Smart Grid Interoperability

·                P2030 Update – Approval by IEEE-SA NESCOM 4/29

·                P2030.4 Update – Geza Joos provided update. Modified document. Can plug this into 2030  – Next meeting June 29th.

·                P2030.10.1 – Draft Review – Covers low voltage systems not connected to the grid up to 1.3 kW. SCC21 task force reviewed and comments were sent to chair.

·                P2030.11 – Includes many definitions. Consensus was to minimize number of definitions. Includes transmission and distribution.

·                P2030.5 – Robby Simpson gave 2030.5 review. Tie in with communication standard in 1547 revision.  New Par needed after 1547-2018. What is needed is to tweak with backward compatibility.  Has call for proposal open:

§     New features

§     Communication with Aggregated DER

§     Support of Energy Storage.

3.3.   Unfinished Business

3.3.1. SCC21 Standard development roadmap

·                Implication of HECO/IREC harmonization of HI Rule 14H with 1547-2018 for future revision. – This rule is completed. Discussed what needs to be done to update.  Need clarity on SCC21 roadmap regarding HECO / IREC.

3.3.2. Update on conversation with PELS – PELs presentation (Item 3.1)

3.4.   New Items

3.4.1.Approve PAR for P1562 revision jointly sponsored with ESSB – Approved previous meeting

3.4.2.Harmonization of terminology – Updates on NERC SPIDER terms related to DER

Jens provided presented SPIDER WG terminology discussion.

4.       Action items and next meeting(s)

4.1.    Action items

4.2.    Next meeting(s) – June 26, 2020

–          Next meeting technical presentation by Ryan Quint – FFR (Fast Frequency Response) presentation based on NERC Report.

–          Report out on terminology discussion initiated by Jens Boemer and Geza Joos.

5.       AOB – None
6.       Adjourn – Adjourned at 3:21 PM EDT  – Bob Fox motioned, Janette Sandberg seconded.

IEEE SCC21 Meeting – April 24, 2020

Agenda

Topic Lead Approval Item? Time (EDT)
1.      Introduction and IEEE policy matters

1.1.    Call to Order – Chair

1.2.    IEEE Patent Policy

1.3.    Determine if Quorum met? – Chair

1.4.    Introduction of new members and Guests

Chair

 

 

 

 

2:00

 

 

 

 

2.      Agenda and previous meeting minutes

2.1.    Approval of Agenda – All

2.2.    Approve previous meeting minutes – All

2.2.1. Minutes of November 22, 2019.

2.2.2. Minutes of February 21, 2020

2.2.3. Minutes of March 27, 2020

Chair

 

 

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

 

 

2:10

 

 

 

 

 

3.      Technical discussion

3.1.    Rolling Presentation

·                TENTATIVE: Update on UL 1741 SB and Timeline for Rollout of IEEE Std 1547™-2018 Compliant DER (see also https://site.ieee.org/sagroups-scc21/standards/1547rev/

Zgonena  

No

 

2:15
3.2.    Project Review

3.2.1. Discussion on Impact of COVID-19 to Project schedules

3.2.2. Update on IEEE 1547.x Standards

·                Update on Meeting Venues

·                Update on 1547a-2020 publication

·                Update on P1547.2

·                Update on P1547.3

·                Update on P1547.9

3.2.3. Update on SCC21 Energy Storage Standards

·                IEEE P1562 Revised PAR to change to Recommended practice and Reset the Ballot Process

·                IEEE 1526

3.2.4. Update on SCC21 Smart Grid Interoperability

·                P2030 Update – Reviewed by IEEE-SA SB 4/29

·                P2030.4 Update

·                2030.10.1 Upcoming Draft

 

Siira

 

Vartanian

Narang

Stec

Sandberg

Ropp

 

Siira

Ashton,

 

Siira

Siira/Joos

Siira

 

No

 

No

No

No

No

No

No

 

 

No

 

 

No

 

2:30

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2:35

 

 

2:40

 

 

 

 

 

3.3.    Unfinished Business

3.3.1. SCC21 Standard Development Roadmap

·                Implications of HECO/IREC harmonization of HI Rule 14H with 1547-2018 for future 1547 revision

3.3.2. Update on conversation with PEL

 

Boemer

 

 

Siira/Boemer

No

 

 

2:55

 

 

3.4 New Items

1.1.1. Approve PAR for P1562 revision jointly sponsored with ESSB

 

Siira

 

 

Yes

 

 

3:10

 

2.      Action items and next meeting(s)

2.1.    Action items

2.2.    Next meeting(s) –May 22, 2020

All

 

 

 

3:20

 

 

 

3.      AOB All
4.      Adjourn 3:30

 

Minutes

Topic
1.       Introduction and IEEE policy matters

Quorum was met at 2:02 PM.

SCC21 Roster and Participation for April 24, 2020                                                                                      

Total members & guests               62

Members & Guests present         20

Eligible voting members               22

Voting members present              17

Mark opened the meeting, and reviewed latest updated agenda, sent prior to meeting.

The Chair identified that no patent related discussion will take place.

2.       Agenda and previous meeting minutes

2.1.   Approval of Agenda – Approved by all. Leo Casey motioned. Seconded by Bob Fox

2.2.    Approve previous meeting minutes – All – Minutes of March 27, 2020 meeting approved.  Leo Casey motioned. Seconded by Bob Fox

3.       Technical discussion

3.1.   Rolling Presentation

3.1.1.       Update on UL 1741 SB and Timeline for Rollout of IEEE Std 1547™-2018 Compliant DER (see also https://site.ieee.org/sagroups-scc21/standards/1547rev/ . – Jens Boemer summarized UL 1741 SB.  Closed Balloting April 20, 2020.

·        SB is the only way to get certified to IEEE 1547-2018.

·        Manufacturers want a grace period of 18 months

3.1.2.       Schedule for meetings originally planned for Portland, OR https://site.ieee.org/sagroups-scc21/2020/05/01/259/

·        P1547.9 – June 8th & 9th, P1547.3 – June 9th & 10th, P1547.2 – June 10th to 12th

3.2.   Project Review

3.2.1. Discussion on Impact of COVID-19 to project schedules:

·        No change in schedule by Revcomm.

·        Meetings originally planned for Portland, OR will be held on line. Schedule is  P1547.9 – June 8th & 9th, P1547.3 – June 9th & 10th, P1547.2 – June 10th to 12th  More information : https://site.ieee.org/sagroups-scc21/2020/05/01/259/

3.2.2.Update on IEEE 1547.x Standards

·                Update on P1547a Amendment – Published earlier in April.  More information: https://site.ieee.org/sagroups-scc21/2020/04/24/ieee-1547a-2020-amendment-published/

·                Update on P1547.2 – Next web-call on May 7th.  Next Working group meeting June 10th to 12th.

·                Update on P1547.3 – Sub-groups active

·                Update on P1547.9 – Not a lot new at this time.

3.2.3.Update on SCC21 Energy Storage Standards

·                IEEE P1562- Revised PAR to change to Recommended Practice and reset the ballot process.

§      Draft 2.2 document undergone a major rewrite

§     Addition of discussion on MPPT tracking

§     Development of a spreadsheet toll that can be used for sizing

§     Elimination of Annex A on PV module

§     Many new cross-references in section

§      A clean ballot draft will be much easier to follow.

§      Working group approved this change via email ballot on April 22

§     Mark reviewed the IEEE P1562 PAR “Recommended Practice for Sizing of Stand-Alone Photovoltaic (PV) Systems

§     Hybrid PV system has multiple sources other than PV (i.e. Diesel and PV

§     Will exclude grid connected energy storage.

§     Editorial changes will have to be made that were captured in the system (i.e. remove guide).

§     Motion by Curtis Ashton to approve. Leo Casey seconded. Jens Boemer abstained.  No objections. Motion Approved at 2:37 PM EDT.

·                IEEE 1526 – Ballot closes on May 9th.

3.2.4.Update on SCC21 Smart Grid Interoperability

·                P2030 Update – Reviewed by IEEE-SA SB April 29th – Initial coordination work with PES PSCC, NIST, IEEE P230.11

·                2030.4 Update  – Next meeting May 4, 2020

·                2030.10.1 Upcoming Draft

§     Last meeting January 9, 2020 – Progress slowed due to COVID19

§     Chair sent draft 1 an April 29 for SCC21 Review.

3.3.   Unfinished Business

3.3.1. SCC21 Standard development roadmap

·                Implication of HECO/IREC harmonization of HI Rule 14H with 1547-2018 for future revision.

3.3.2. Update on conversation with PELS – Add UL update if timing is available.

3.4.   New Items

3.4.1.Approve PAR for P1562 revision jointly sponsored with ESSB – Approved – See 3.2.3 IEEE P1562.

4.       Action items and next meeting(s)

4.1.    Action items

4.2.    Next meeting(s) – May 22, 2020

5.       AOB
6.       Adjourn – Adjourned at 2:56 PM EDT  – Leo Casey motioned, Mike Ropp seconded.

IEEE SCC21 Meeting Minutes – March 27, 2020

Agenda

Topic Lead Approval Item? Time (EDT)
1.      Introduction and IEEE policy matters

1.1.    Call to Order – Chair

1.2.    IEEE Patent Policy

1.3.    Determine if Quorum met? – Chair

1.4.    Introduction of new members and Guests

Chair 2:00
2.      Agenda and previous meeting minutes

2.1.    Approval of Agenda – All

2.2.    Approve previous meeting minutes – All

2.2.1. Minutes of November 22, 2019.

2.2.2. Minutes of February 22, 2020

Chair

 

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

 

2:10

 

 

 

 

3.      Technical discussion

3.1.    Rolling Presentation

·                Update on Meeting Venues

·                Discussion on Impact of COVID-19 to meeting plans and mitigation with virtual meetings

·                SCC21 Standard Development Roadmap

 

Vartanian

 

 

Boemer

No

 

 

2:15

 

 

3.2.    Project Review

3.2.1. Update on IEEE 1547.x Standards

·                Update on P1547a Amendment

·                Update on P1547.1

·                Update on P1547.2

·                Update on P1547.3

·                Update on P1547.9

3.2.2. Update on SCC21 Energy Storage Standards

·                IEEE P1562

·                IEEE 1526

3.2.3. Update on SCC21 Smart Grid Interoperability

·                2030.4 Update

·                2030.10.1 Upcoming Draft

 

 

Narang

Hoke,

Stec,

Sandberg

Ropp

 

Siira/
Ashton,

 

Siira/Joos

Siira

 

 

No

No

No

No

No

 

No

No

 

No

No

2:25

 

 

 

 

 

2:30

 

2:35

 

 

3.3.    Unfinished Business

3.3.1. Joint Study Group with PES/PSCC on Revision of IEEE 2030-2011

 

Siira/Johnson

 

 

No

 

2:45
3.4 New Items

3.4.1. Approve PAR for P2030 revision jointly sponsored with PES/PSCC

3.4.2. Approve Ballot for P2030.10.1

 

Siira

Siira

 

Yes

Yes

 

3:10

3:15

4.      Action items and next meeting(s)

4.1.    Action items

4.2.    Next meeting(s) –April 24, 2020

All 3:20
5.      AOB All
6.      Adjourn 3:30

Minutes

Topic
1.       Introduction and IEEE policy matters

Quorum was met at 2:05 PM.

SCC21 Roster and Participation for March 27, 2020                                                                                   

Total members & guests               62

Members & Guests present         20

Eligible voting members               21

Voting members present              16

Mark opened the meeting, and reviewed latest updated agenda, sent prior to meeting.

The Chair identified that no patent related discussion will take place.

2.       Agenda and previous meeting minutes

2.1.   Approval of Agenda – Approved

2.2.    Approve previous meeting minutes – All

Moving forward we will post meeting minutes and request approval by offline poll.  Poll votes should be received by 1 week after the meeting.

3.       Technical discussion

3.1.   Rolling Presentation

3.1.1.       Update on meeting venues: Scheduled 1547.x meetings are June 8-12 2020 PGE/Portland,  Sept 28-Oct 2 ComEd/IL, and Mar 1-5 2021 Dominion/VA.  Will determine impact of COVID-19 on meeting plans and mitigation with virtual meetings.

3.1.2.       Standards Roadmap –

Mark introduced a draft format for showing the timeline of standards projects for IEEE SCC21.

Dave suggested we develop criteria for developing a PAR.    Mark agreed and indicated that the charts presented contemplate: 1. IEEE Required timing (10 years) and 2. Market forces and gaps. Perhaps a third could be availability of key participants or leaders.

Mark would also like to track new issues that need to be evaluated for standards.

3.2.   Project Review

3.2.1.Update on IEEE 1547.x Standards

·                Update on P1547a Amendment – Approved March 9th, Publication staff is finalizing document before publication.

·                Update on P1547.1 – Approved

·                Update on P1547.2 –Meeting in Austin, TX was very productive with much draft material reviewed.

·                Update on P1547.3 – Two sub-groups started at the Austin, TX meeting.

·                Update on P1547.9 – Good progress. Waiting for June Meeting.

3.2.2.Update on SCC21 Energy Storage Standards

·                IEEE P1562- Final review after substantial rewrite for recirculation.  Changing title and scope of PAR.  Will submit to for approval after recirculation.

·                IEEE 1526 – In mandatory editorial,  for over a month.  Waiting for editorial response.

3.2.3.Update on SCC21 Smart Grid Interoperability

·                2030.4 Update  – none.

·                2030.10.1 – See new items.

3.3.   Unfinished Business

3.3.1. Joint Study Group with PES/PSCC on Revision of IEEE 2030-2011  PES/PSCC – approved study.

3.4.   New Items

3.4.1.Approve PAR for P2030 revision jointly sponsored with PES/PSCC

·        Mark introduces basic information of the PAR. Not a major rewrite but an update to the interoperability model.

·        Bob – 2030.11 being very careful for interpretation will work with DERMS.  Need to leave this PAR wide open.

·        Chris – DERMS is complete energy management system. Energy storage system included

·        Siira has a 2030 base standard 1 hour presentation that he will make available.

·        Smart Grid – New term is Integrated Grid. Tony said that a lot of work would have to be done to get the term changed. But he proposes to get it started.  To change title needs to revise PAR.

·        Open to rethinking to change the term.

·        The PAR is approved at 2:57 PM – No abstentions and no negative votes.

3.4.2. Approve Ballot for P2030.10.1 –  Mark has not seen any draft material for review of IEEE P2030.10.1.   When it is submitted to SCC21 the following will review: Ben , Crystel  and Curtis

4.       Action items and next meeting(s)

4.1.    Action items

4.2.    Next meeting(s) – April 24, 2020

5.       AOB
6.       Adjourn – Adjourned at 3:02 PM EDT – Babak Enayati motioned, Mike Ropp seconded.

IEEE SCC21 Meeting Minutes – February 21, 2020

Agenda

Topic Lead Approval Item? Time (EDT)
1.      Introduction and IEEE policy matters

1.1.    Call to Order – Chair

1.2.    IEEE Patent Policy

1.3.    Determine if Quorum met? – Chair

1.4.    Introduction of new members and Guests

Chair   2:00
2.      Agenda and previous meeting minutes

2.1.    Approval of Agenda – All

2.2.    Approve previous meeting minutes – All

2.2.1. Minutes of November 22, 2019

Chair

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

2:10

 

 

 

3.      Technical discussion

3.1.    Rolling Presentation

No Presentation this month

 

 

 

 

 
3.2.    Project Review

3.2.1. Update on IEEE 1547.x Standards

·                Update on P1547a Amendment

·                Update on P1547.1

·                Update on P1547.2

·                Update on P1547.3

·                Update on P1547.9

3.2.2. Update on SCC21 Energy Storage Standards

·                IEEE P1661

·                IEEE P937

·                IEEE P1562

·                IEEE 1526

3.2.3. Update on SCC21 Smart Grid Interoperability

·                2030.4 Update

·                2030.5

·                2030.10.1

 

 

Narang

Hoke,

Stec,

Sandberg

Ropp

 

Siira/
ASHTON,

 

 

 

Siira/Joos

Siira

Simpson

 

 

No

No

No

No

No

 

No

No

No

No

 

No

No

No

2:15

 

 

 

 

 

2:30

 

 

 

2:35

 

 

3.3.    Unfinished Business

3.3.1. JTCM Coordination – Jacksonville, January 2020

3.3.2. Update on Study Group for Grid Forming Inverters

3.3.3. Study Group on Revision of IEEE 2030-2011

3.3.4. Study Group on Resuming IEEE P2030.1

 

Siira, Enayati

Casey

 

Siira/Johnson

No Update

 

No

No

 

TBD

No

2:45

 

 

 

 

 

3.4 New Items

3.4.1. International IEEE Activities on IEEE 1547

3.4.2. Potential Outreach Opportunities

 

Siira

All

 

No

No

 

3:10

3:15

4.      Action items and next meeting(s)

4.1.    Action items

4.2.    Next meeting(s) –March 26, 2020
Note: there will be a new meeting invitation for recurring meetings in 2020

All

 

 

 

  3:20

 

 

 

5.      AOB All    
6.      Adjourn     3:30

Minutes

Topic
1.       Introduction and IEEE policy matters

This meeting did not meet quorum requirements.

SCC21 Roster and Participation for February 21, 2020                                                                              

Total members & guests               60

Members & Guests present         14

Eligible voting members               19

Voting members present              8

Mark opened the meeting, and reviewed latest updated agenda, sent prior to meeting.

The Chair identified that no patent related discussion will take place.

2.       Agenda and previous meeting minutes

2.1.   Approval of Agenda – All

2.2.    Approve previous meeting minutes – All

2.2.1.Minutes of November 22, 2019  – Deferred – Quorum not obtained.

3.       Technical discussion

3.1.   Rolling Presentation

No Presentation this month.

3.2.   Project Review

3.2.1.Update on IEEE 1547.x Standards

·                Update on P1547a Amendment – None.

·                Update on P1547.1 – At Revcom.

·                Update on P1547.2 – Next scheduled in-person meeting is next week in Austin, TX

·                Update on P1547.3 – First working group meeting is next week.

·                Update on P1547.9 – Two day meeting next week.

3.2.2.Update on SCC21 Energy Storage Standards

·                IEEE P1661 – 2019 Approved

·                IEEE P937 – 2019 Approved

·                IEEE P1562- Draft to include MPPT write-up.

·                IEEE 1526 – Formed a ballot pool. Waiting for mandatory coordination to finish.

·                IEEE 2686

·                New par for BMS between battery and inverter.

3.2.3.Update on SCC21 Smart Grid Interoperability

·                2030.4 Update  – Next meeting in March, include ASHRAE.

·                2030.5 – Robby Simpson – chair.  Restart of the working group. Increased interfacing with storage and with consumers themselves. Revisiting the way grouping is done. Framing these new issues into priorities. Meeting next Monday.

·                2030.10.1 – Low voltage DC power systems. Let us know who wants to review the draft (No additional volunteers on call). No intention to connect to the distribution network.

3.3.   Unfinished Business

3.3.1. JTCM Coordination – Jacksonville, January 2020 – Power Systems Communications and Cybersecurity – (Tony Johnson) Opened up study group to look at 2030.5 w SCC 21 taking the lead and PSCC supporting.

3.3.2.Update on Study Group for Grid Forming Inverters – Power Systems modeling on – Can include energy storage (More general topics). Leo will post minutes from that meeting. Let Leo or Mark know if you want to participate.

3.3.3. Study Group on Revision of IEEE 2030-2011 – Mark and Tony producing draft PAR for June Revcom meeting. May get on earlier NESCOM meeting.

3.3.4. Study Group on Resuming IEEE P2030.1 – No activity. (Vehicle to Grid. There was a draft and was abandoned.)

3.3.5. Mark confirmed SCC21 Chair for 2020.

3.4.   New Items

3.4.1. International IEEE Activities on IEEE 1547 – IEEE focus on international efforts.  Interest in Israel and Africa.

Curtis – Korea KEPIC – Working with them on energy storage standards (Samsung & LG Chem based there.)  They have many storage sites.

Australia outreach – Storage system testing and commissioning standard.  Have not seen a draft of document.

ESB has a couple of Latin America attendees.

3.4.2.Potential Outreach Opportunities.

·        Alaska – 2 day workshop in May or June – Energy storage or microgrids.  Curtis would like to keep informed.

·        Other conferences. IEEE T&D show (Sean Carr) – Curtis – Energy storage tutorial and panel sessions at both T&D and PES General Meeting.

·        Mark presenting at solar industries SEPA – Working solar energy research organization in Wisconsin

4.       Action items and next meeting(s)

4.1.    Action items

4.2.    Next meeting(s) – March 27, 2020

Note: there will be a new meeting invitation for recurring meetings in 2020

5.       AOB
6.       Adjourn – Janette Sandberg motions to adjourn. Curtis Ashton seconds motion. At 2:36 PM EST